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		<title>By: Cloud Channel Disruption – Little APIs, Big Transformations</title>
		<link>http://chaotic-flow.com/hey-saas-experts-whats-your-cloud-computing-iq/comment-page-1/#comment-13100</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloud Channel Disruption – Little APIs, Big Transformations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] old news that the Internet has disrupted channel structure across numerous industries. So why go on about the channel now? Because, cloud computing is transforming the Internet as a channel. The evolution from [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Joel York</title>
		<link>http://chaotic-flow.com/hey-saas-experts-whats-your-cloud-computing-iq/comment-page-1/#comment-13086</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Walter,

It&#039;s easiest to describe the two extremes with the understanding that lot&#039;s of intermediate models exist.  

On the one hand, you have physical distribution of enterprise software on a CD supported by a channel that provides complementary &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;manual services&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;  in order to deliver a more complete solution.

On the other hand, you have electronic distribution of SaaS/Cloud applications over the network supported by channels that provide complementary &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;online services and applications&lt;/em&gt; in order to deliver a more complete solution.

Since the &lt;em&gt;channel services are essentially information goods, they can be delivered over the network instead of in person&lt;/em&gt;, and if the services are highly standardized they can be delivered as SaaS/Cloud applications in their own right.  PaaS is essential for the latter, in order to sew all these applications together.

Consider the purchase and integration two systems: CRM and support in the old school software channel model vs. the new network channel model.  The network channel partner provides online purchase through a reseller relationship, an integration-as-a-service offering that connects the CRM and support systems out of the box, and online on-boarding support and training (the integration as a service product would be the PaaS element and is by far the highest value added by the channel partner).

Another good SaaS-centric example is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zendesk.com/partners/gooddata&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GoodData / Zendesk relationship&lt;/a&gt;.

Where GoodData is distributing its BI solution via Zendesk.

Hope this helps,

Joel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Walter,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easiest to describe the two extremes with the understanding that lot&#8217;s of intermediate models exist.  </p>
<p>On the one hand, you have physical distribution of enterprise software on a CD supported by a channel that provides complementary <em><strong>manual services</strong></em>  in order to deliver a more complete solution.</p>
<p>On the other hand, you have electronic distribution of SaaS/Cloud applications over the network supported by channels that provide complementary <em><strong>online services and applications</strong></em> in order to deliver a more complete solution.</p>
<p>Since the <em>channel services are essentially information goods, they can be delivered over the network instead of in person</em>, and if the services are highly standardized they can be delivered as SaaS/Cloud applications in their own right.  PaaS is essential for the latter, in order to sew all these applications together.</p>
<p>Consider the purchase and integration two systems: CRM and support in the old school software channel model vs. the new network channel model.  The network channel partner provides online purchase through a reseller relationship, an integration-as-a-service offering that connects the CRM and support systems out of the box, and online on-boarding support and training (the integration as a service product would be the PaaS element and is by far the highest value added by the channel partner).</p>
<p>Another good SaaS-centric example is the <a href="http://www.zendesk.com/partners/gooddata" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">GoodData / Zendesk relationship</a>.</p>
<p>Where GoodData is distributing its BI solution via Zendesk.</p>
<p>Hope this helps,</p>
<p>Joel</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Adamson</title>
		<link>http://chaotic-flow.com/hey-saas-experts-whats-your-cloud-computing-iq/comment-page-1/#comment-13083</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Adamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article and I like the idea of &quot;the network is the channel&quot; but I can&#039;t get my head around it and the concurrent idea that cloud channel partners will also be part of the &quot;channel&quot;. Is it actually the right phrase, or confusing? The network channel is the cloud application interoperability; the PaaS channel will build/delivery the mashups. 

What is the actual definition of the &quot;channel&quot; in &quot;the network in the channel&quot; versus the Channel partners? I&#039;m thinking aloud about someone asking me when I whip out your neat phrase, and I&#039;m not clear about a simple explanation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article and I like the idea of &#8220;the network is the channel&#8221; but I can&#8217;t get my head around it and the concurrent idea that cloud channel partners will also be part of the &#8220;channel&#8221;. Is it actually the right phrase, or confusing? The network channel is the cloud application interoperability; the PaaS channel will build/delivery the mashups. </p>
<p>What is the actual definition of the &#8220;channel&#8221; in &#8220;the network in the channel&#8221; versus the Channel partners? I&#8217;m thinking aloud about someone asking me when I whip out your neat phrase, and I&#8217;m not clear about a simple explanation?</p>
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		<title>By: Software as a Service (SaaS) - Cloud Computing &#8212; You Say it Your Way, I&#8217;ll Say it Mine</title>
		<link>http://chaotic-flow.com/hey-saas-experts-whats-your-cloud-computing-iq/comment-page-1/#comment-13070</link>
		<dc:creator>Software as a Service (SaaS) - Cloud Computing &#8212; You Say it Your Way, I&#8217;ll Say it Mine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 15:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] matter)? Is it something different altogether as Joel York discusses in a recent blog titled &#8220;Hey SaaS Experts &#8212; What&#8217;s Your Cloud Computing IQ?&#8221; or Ray Wang in his post titled &#8220;Understanding The Many Flavors of Cloud Computing and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] matter)? Is it something different altogether as Joel York discusses in a recent blog titled &#8220;Hey SaaS Experts &#8212; What&#8217;s Your Cloud Computing IQ?&#8221; or Ray Wang in his post titled &#8220;Understanding The Many Flavors of Cloud Computing and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Saas</title>
		<link>http://chaotic-flow.com/hey-saas-experts-whats-your-cloud-computing-iq/comment-page-1/#comment-12936</link>
		<dc:creator>Saas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 01:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>informative, thank you for the info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>informative, thank you for the info.</p>
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		<title>By: Cloud Computing and SaaS vendors &#124; Cloud Computing, SaaS Applications &#38; Business software Blog- GetApp.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cloud Computing and SaaS vendors &#124; Cloud Computing, SaaS Applications &#38; Business software Blog- GetApp.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read the rest of the original article&#8230;SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: &quot;Cloud Computing and SaaS vendors&quot;, url: &quot;http://www.getapp.com/blog/cloud-computing-and-saas-vendors/&quot; }); [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cloud Computing IQ, las leyes de Bessemer y otras ideas &#171; Juan Martinez&#39;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cloud Computing IQ, las leyes de Bessemer y otras ideas &#171; Juan Martinez&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hace poco Joel York desde el blog de Chaotic Flow con una pregunta llena de intención: &#8220;Hey SaaS Experts &#8211; What&#8217;s Your Cloud Computing IQ?&#8221; y reclamaba el hecho de que numerosas compañías simplemente actualizaban su mensaje de [...]</description>
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